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May 30, 2008
Nurses Blog About Nursing Education
A new edition of Change of Shift has posted. Don't miss this issue, focusing on nursing education, from the perspective of a recent graduate.
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Posted by: cj | Jan 24, 2012 11:19:32 PM
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Posted by: gwyneth patterson | Sep 1, 2011 5:43:41 PM
I have read many of the comments above and I agree with parts of all of it. My main concern is the lack of faculty and those who spoke to this issue are correct - pay is the main reason we do not have enough qualified faculty which causes schools of nursing to turn away a lot of qualified applicants because they do not have the teachers to teach the classes. I am an adjunct instructor for a couple of schools and an online school. I found I had to get my doctorate in order to get the position I was interested in teaching (which I am currently working on). It is true that in order to teach BSN or higher, the schools are now requiring a doctorate. This is actually shooting ourselves in the foot. When you consider the huge gap that will be left wide open when the Baby Boomer nurses all retire, I think the focus to avert a major shortage would be to find the funding to make being an instructor in nursing programs more attractive. That way we can admit more applicants and do our part in meeting the workforce needs of the future.
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Posted by: Antony | Feb 24, 2010 3:55:08 AM
hi, thanks,The article was very well written, very helpful to me
Posted by: JessicaSaide | May 10, 2009 5:20:47 PM
The link to Change of Shift was a useful one. Thanks.
Posted by: LPN nursing | May 4, 2009 4:53:58 AM
I have a question about nursing education:
If a person with an advanced degree in a non-nursing field obtains an RN (and never gets a BSN or MSN, just a nursing diploma), will he/she be payed on the same level as a Master's prepared RN because of the advanced degree obtained prior to the RN licensure?
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Posted by: Indonesia nurse | Sep 21, 2008 5:59:16 AM
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Posted by: kanchan Ajgaonkar | Aug 8, 2008 3:30:08 AM
Well, I guess this whole discussion about education really does come down to the patient! We are now reading more research reports (very good research) that substantiates that the more BSN nurses you have, the better your patient outcomes. You get lower morbidity and mortality rates! (http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/288/16/1987)
Its not about being better or worse - its about the patient.
Posted by: WebRNDebbie | Jul 29, 2008 2:39:39 PM
When I graduated in 1987 with my diploma in nursing (3 year program), it was announced here in Canada that any nurse entering the nursing profession in or after 2000 would be required to have a BSN (4 year program). Sitting around the table one day, a group of us discussed this and all came to the same conclusion: this will cause a nursing shortage. My program was hospital based and we spent a great deal of time doing clinical as well as classroom. When I got my transcript, I compared it to that of the BSN program. In classroom time, we spent approximately 30% more time in class. For clinical, we had anywhere from 30-50% more clinical time. When I graduated, I was quickly hired to work as an RN in PARR because of the quality of our program. Having a BSN does not make you a better nurse, just a having a LPN make you less of a nurse. It all depends on the quality of the education. We as nurses have a habit of "eating our young", as in new nurses. I found that nurses who graduated with their BSN sometimes tend to have an attitude of that they are better that everyone else, because they have a degree. I feel that since doctors can't practice until they do an internship, what's wrong with nurses doing that. That way we all learn exactly the same thing. These comments are based on training hear in Canada.
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Posted by: Barb Klick | Jun 26, 2008 4:41:21 AM
Anyone reading these blogs who may have been interested in Nursing has just now clicked away. Why ? Even those of us who stay in nursing can't figure out a system that is so fragmented, and has different requirements depending on what state you hold a license is responsible for the frustration expressed by my colleagues. Maybe we need to see that nursing is unique.
We are not engeineers. Our education needs to be different; we are working with people. People with the same diagnosis can't be treated the same.
When are nurse going to stop beating themselves over the head about LPN vs. RN vs. RN BSN ??????
We have people to care for even when the Docs go home we are there. We need to be kind to one another and help each other through the shift with 4 admissions and documenting, and still getting to know the person w/ the diagnosis.
Our attitude and demeanor is what causes our problems.
Starting now I am a nurse who will respect you a nurse because you have reached the level designator and then we will treat one another professionally as others in the legal,medicine, and teaching treat their peers.
Posted by: Sea Hess | Jun 18, 2008 12:24:01 PM
I have been a BSN since 1978. I am currently working in the infusion nursing specialty with a CRNI certification. I see a bigger issue with the educational system that requires a PhD to teach at the BSN level. Where will you find these people to be professors? It will have to be someone who is willing to lay out big time and money to obtain their doctorate to eventually earn realatively little. It will be someone who has a love for teaching and someone else in the family making another income. So if the average age of a nursing professor is 57 do the math and estimate we will ehaust the supply of instructors soon. We have assosiate and BSN RNs working side by side and being paid aproximately the same (Colorado); there has been talk for 30+ years for a two tier state board exam or even more preferable to some, entry level into nursing the BSN. Does this guarantee a better RN? Does this predict greater retention in the profession? Does this promote more satisfaction for the RN? What will the difference be if our healthcare is nationalized? I suggest two years of year round school and a year of following residency as a nurse with clinical experience happening in the first semester. This will decrease the average time in school for a BSN from five years to three and put more nurses into the clinical picture during their time of training. I maintain if RNs starting money was $70,000 a year with the potential to make $90,000 there would not be a shortage of people wanting into the profession.
Posted by: dave | Jun 13, 2008 5:45:35 PM
I agree we need more nursing faculty for our nursing programs. I currently work for a community college as an adjunt. I enjoy teaching but could not accept a full time position because of the salary. I can make more working part time in a hospital than full time at the school. The schools have to raise the salaries in order for more nurses to go into teaching.
Posted by: Mary | Jun 12, 2008 9:45:05 AM
It seems as though the entire healthcare system is loosing sight of the patient. It seems it is about quanity $ and not quality. I have been a nurse 34 years. LPN, RN, and now BSN. It is the most rewarding profession I know, however the bean counters have lost sight of our most precious component, the patient. To our young nurses, do not forget the patient you are their advocate, do not loose sight of this. I was just at an interview for clinical educator and the interviewers were 27 yr old and 30 yr old. My resume goes back to 1974, before they were born. Interviewing was done with targeted selection. I was able to present to them the positive aspects of how to approach issues in a positive way, what works and what does not work in my experience. The main thing that I would say to young nurses is the attitude. You can teach skills all day long but you cannot teach attitude. Your patients need that smile, that encouragement, that hospitality to get well. Hang in there!!
Posted by: J Rogers | Jun 12, 2008 12:05:47 AM
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